marbleglove: (Default)
marbleglove ([personal profile] marbleglove) wrote2010-02-10 06:58 pm

Plot-bunny: Highlander / Stargate (2 of 3)

When I wrote A Square Peg in a Round Hole, I had a whole set of ideas for how to get Methos in contact with the SGC crew. At request, I’m posting what ideas I had at the time that I didn’t go forward with. Of them all, this was the closest second. I almost went with it a number of times and it wound up being more random chance than any particular reason that I went with Square Peg instead. .

The second of three Methos/Stargate plot-bunnies:



The bar was closed to the public but full of Watchers. They were all trading stories and just generally debreifing each other as they did every couple of weeks. When you had a secret life it was important to find some time to speak freely.

When teh phone rang, Joe Dawson, bar owner and area supervisor, delegated the task of answering it to one of his subordinates both in watcher training and in bar tending. He didn’t even think much of it until the young watcher put his hand over the mouthpiece and called out, “Guys? It’s someone calling for Methos.”

Dead silence.

Joe gave an agonized look at Adam Pierson whom he alone, of all the watchers, knew to be both immortal and that most elusive of the immortals, Methos. But everyone was looking around, confused and worried. Was Methos here? Did someone know they were watchers? Were they in danger? What should they do?

Finally Adam stood up. “Unless someone here is going to admit to being immortal, being my immortal...?” He paused and looked at each person in turn, studying them for some sign. “I’m going to answer and see what I can learn.”

There were nods of comprehension and approval and a few mouthed “good idea”s but everyone sat silent as he took the phone. “Yes?”

The Watchers watched and listened, straining to hear every word.

----------------

The Watchers milled around the bar quietly unhappy. The fact that Adam Pierson was fluent in multiple otherwise-dead languages had never before been so frustrating. Only two watchers, who had had previous assignments in Egypt, stayed still and focused near the bar, trying to understand a language that was like and yet unlike that which they knew.

But everyone perked up again when ADam spoek loudly in English. “If you harm him in any way before I get there I will personally skin you alive with a red hot spoon!”

The Watchers were pretty evenly split between looking appalled at the normally mild and gentle researcher’s threat and looking greatly impressed by it.

The phone back in its cradle, Adam slumped on a stool with his head in his hands. One of the more impatient of the Watchers finally said, “Well?”

Adam’s eyes were tired and his smile weak. “False alarm as far as Methos goes. A contact of mine wanted to get through to me without giving away my name. He doesn’t know who or what Methos is, just that its a word I keep track of, that I would respond to. He’s been arrested by the US military and is slated for execution.”

“I’m sorry, Adam.”

“Harsh.”

“But due process!”

“Who was your contact?”

“Why does a researcher have a contact?”

The responses came more or less at the same time, but the last one had a few of them puzzled. Active watchers might have “contacts” to get them past security checkpoints or into places they couldn’t get on their own but researchers stayed in libraries, right? Occasionally traveled to see the sights but not following dangerous individuals.

“Black market antique rings and tomb raiders. Smuggling weapons on the side. Occasional forgery.”

Adam rubbed his eyes again and they all remembered that it was late at night (or early in the morning, as the case may be) and they'd all been drinking. “The military was almost certainly monitoring that line so the security of this bar has been compromised. I’m sorry, Joe.”

“Don’t worry. It’s not the first time I’ve been investigated and I doubt it’ll be the last.”

“Be careful. That goes for all of you. Something screwy is going on. He had some of the best security I’ve seen but they caught him anyway. And they were just waiting to shoot.”

“Uh-huh,” Joe agreed warily. “And what about you?”

“The name Methos is used in a mysterious situation... I’ll investigate it, of course,” Adam spoke in mock surprise.

“You said it had nothing to do with Methos.”

“Yeah. But it does have to do with my friends and its still a mysterious situation.”

----------------

The SGC agents looked up from Daniels translation of what their most recent prisoner had said on the phone before they had managed to subdue him.

“Seriously?”

“That’s the translation.” Daniel shrugged with some bemusement of his own. “That’s what was said.”

“He is a goa’uld, isn’t he?” Jack asked.

It was a serious question. Sure, their prisoner had the goa’uld voice and the flashing eyes, but still… “the host called his dad?”

-------------------

The plot is that Methos had a son some two or three thousand years ago. He did not want him to die. And he was friends with a goa’uld. So for the last couple of thousand of years Methos has had a friend and a son who are immortal but not part of The Game. He loves having an immortal family and now someone is threatening that.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure the NID and the SGC are enemies, but the NID are not necessarily evil. They're an oversight group that's supposed to catch super-secret government groups before they go overboard. The problem with the SGC is that they routinely have to go overboard in order to save the world.

Vathara wrote a wonderful fic sometime back: Hearts on Barbed Wire
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2013341/1/Hearts_on_Barbed_Wire
It points out that, yes, the SGC are good guys; yes, they save the world, but unfortunately, yes, they are committing treason. They are running a private war without the knowledge of the people. The President is committing treason by ordering them to do so, they are committing treason by following those orders. There are checks and balances in place for a reason.
Actually, it's part of a series, Urban Legends, which is really fabulous in a whole variety of ways and which I definitely recommend.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] lita-of-jupiter.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
OOoooh!

I am so going to read that... and don't we know some guy with Lawyer credentials who could attempt to try the SGC or threaten to for treason... especially since they have his son there imprisioned without due process just out of prejudice for his origins and race...

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. The McCarthy era and the more recent Patriot Act have both given us examples of times when government has considered itself above the modern legal system. I don't know enough about legal issues to really know how Lawyer!Methos would go about legally arguing for his son's release. Any ideas? What judge would be (a) qualified to hear the pleading and (b) willing to grant it audience? My understanding is the way these systems work is that they restrict the qualified judges to ones who refuse to back the laws.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] lita-of-jupiter.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
not to familiar with american legal system I am afraid... but a lawyer who is smart enough can make a lot of noise... especially if it threatens to go public with certain things.

my guess would be that some kind of judge would have to be brought forth to judge the accusations especially if Methos has proof

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2010-03-12 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but where in the world do you find an impartial judge? Or at least, one that anyone is willing to accept as impartial.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] lita-of-jupiter.livejournal.com 2010-03-12 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
well no judge is completely impartial but i guess finding some upstanding and well known guy who is famous for sticking to the laws

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] mountainelement.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I just read it. I've never really thought about SG like that before, but it makes sense. I have to wonder how SG should have gone to keep within the law. At what point did it become a war? As I understand it, they couldn't really take the time to stop during the movie before killing Ra, but should the government have announced the StarGate and the murder of an planetary ruler when they returned? Maybe after another system lord (Apophis?) came through the gate and kidnapped some of their soldiers, they should have filled in the public? I'm not sure how quickly things happened at the beginning of the series. If they didn't go through the StarGate and took the time to conform to the law first, would they have had time to sort out everything with the public and other countries?

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2010-03-12 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
The government doesn't have to stop its work in order to tell the public. In fact, given the lack of goa'uld spies on Earth, there's no reason for the information to be top secret. Telling the public doesn't force the politicians or the military strategists to do what the public says, it just forces them to get that outside opinion. Feedback in that sense is actually a good thing.

In fact, keeping up the actions might make negotiations with other countries easier, since there's a time element involved.

As for the killing of Ra, I'm not sure what the military rules are regarding the self-defense killing of a country ruler. I'm guessing that there are occasions when the life of a soldier is considered less important than the life of a foreign ruler. Maybe they had to do it but they could potentially be in deep trouble afterwards.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] mountainelement.livejournal.com 2010-03-12 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
This really changes my view of the SGC. Now I can't stop thinking about how in all the crossovers, my favorite characters are committing treason.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2010-03-12 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Most fandoms are focused around neutral or chaotic good characters. Check out the following explanation of D&D alignments:

http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/06/09/from-the-slushpile/

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] mountainelement.livejournal.com 2010-03-14 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
I've actually read a mention of this before in "Blackmail Is Such A Dirty Word" by Lady FoxFire, but not in as much detail. The author was obviously a big fan of Xander and not a fan of Buffy and Willow so I wouldn't recommend it, but Jack O'Neil was described as either Chaotic Good or a Chaotic Evil:
""How many governments has Jack helped overthrow? How many Gou'alds has he destroyed thereby destroying someone's religious beliefs?" Xander explained. "How many time have his actions led to the death of someone or the start of some war?"

"Hey! We help free people from the Gou'alds!" Jack exclaimed.

"Did they ask for it?" Xander replied. "If you gave someone CPR and they survive but end up being permanently mentally disabled, did you do a good thing by saving them or a bad thing by forcing them to live as less than they were?""

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] mountainelement.livejournal.com 2010-03-14 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not that Xander is a bad character, but I think you prefer stories that are more balanced in how they treat characters.

Re: Oh I do wish you would write this one

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2010-03-15 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, that does sound like a very interesting take on Jack O'Neill. He's destroying a lot of cultures just because they don't agree with his sense of morality. I like it.

But you're right: I like a balanced portrayal of characters. It's okay to show a character I like as being the bad guy or make one character super strong, but at least do it without gratuitous bashing.