Willow and Hackers
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marblegloveThere have been "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" / "Hackers" crossovers before. i've read several. Some of them are good, some of them are not so good, but none of them have really been ideal.
In "Hackers", there is this whole hacker style that involves everything from clothes to music to jargon. In the big climactic scene at the end, we see little snippets of hackers other than our main characters and it's clear that hackers come from all social circles, but our main character still consider it necessary for real hackers to have all the frills. The stories I've read all buy into this idea and thus, when Willow meets up with the hackers, she's dressed in tight leather and using equally unusual speech patterns.
I would like a story in which Willow, she of the comfortable clothing and California-speak, were to meet the hackers.
My current idea sets it after the end of the series, (I haven't read the comic books at all beyond noticing that Dawn has become a giant), and have Willow getting her teacher certificate so that she can go back and be properly certified in order to teach at the new Slayer Academy. As her experience is with computers and teaching such, she becomes a student teacher at Stuyvesant High School, helping out with the computer classes.
Dade, Kate, and the rest of the hackers are taking this class for the easy "A" they can get. They sneer a bit at the overly cheerful Willow. Then they realize that their easy "A" is going down the drain because the computer system there has been upgraded to the point where they have to work together (and learn their lessons) in order to hack the system, and the lessons Willow is teaching are *hard*.
They try to figure out who she is. Discover that she's the IT person for an apparently unhackable organization based out of Cleveland. Then it's pointed out that she's not scared of anything. She's all light and fluffy and working in a major New York highschool and nobody scares her.
She is surprisingly cool despite appearances.
Of course that's not really a plot, just a starting point. For a plot, I'm thinking one of them gets annoyed with her messing up their grade scheme so hacks her government files and makes changes, like they did to that one FBI agent in the movie. However this time, they did it to the file of someone who the US Army is extremely nervous of and sort of wants to kill on principal for the whole almost-ending-the-world thing.
The rest of the hackers then need to save her, let the army know that she wasn't making changes to her own files, and possibly learn a few things about magic and demons in the mean time.
In "Hackers", there is this whole hacker style that involves everything from clothes to music to jargon. In the big climactic scene at the end, we see little snippets of hackers other than our main characters and it's clear that hackers come from all social circles, but our main character still consider it necessary for real hackers to have all the frills. The stories I've read all buy into this idea and thus, when Willow meets up with the hackers, she's dressed in tight leather and using equally unusual speech patterns.
I would like a story in which Willow, she of the comfortable clothing and California-speak, were to meet the hackers.
My current idea sets it after the end of the series, (I haven't read the comic books at all beyond noticing that Dawn has become a giant), and have Willow getting her teacher certificate so that she can go back and be properly certified in order to teach at the new Slayer Academy. As her experience is with computers and teaching such, she becomes a student teacher at Stuyvesant High School, helping out with the computer classes.
Dade, Kate, and the rest of the hackers are taking this class for the easy "A" they can get. They sneer a bit at the overly cheerful Willow. Then they realize that their easy "A" is going down the drain because the computer system there has been upgraded to the point where they have to work together (and learn their lessons) in order to hack the system, and the lessons Willow is teaching are *hard*.
They try to figure out who she is. Discover that she's the IT person for an apparently unhackable organization based out of Cleveland. Then it's pointed out that she's not scared of anything. She's all light and fluffy and working in a major New York highschool and nobody scares her.
She is surprisingly cool despite appearances.
Of course that's not really a plot, just a starting point. For a plot, I'm thinking one of them gets annoyed with her messing up their grade scheme so hacks her government files and makes changes, like they did to that one FBI agent in the movie. However this time, they did it to the file of someone who the US Army is extremely nervous of and sort of wants to kill on principal for the whole almost-ending-the-world thing.
The rest of the hackers then need to save her, let the army know that she wasn't making changes to her own files, and possibly learn a few things about magic and demons in the mean time.
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Date: 2009-03-03 01:48 pm (UTC)What would her netname be?
I like the differences and the plotline, but isn't the slayer academy allied with the military branch Riley Finn works at? (or is that from the too many fanfics I have read?) and Willow might have some alarms in place to see if someone had messed with her files or any of the scoobies and assume it was much larger than a prank because of recent supernatural badness and so when the branch of the armed forces that wants her dead domes knocking there is the surprise and then the whole saving willow thing and unmaking the changes
and all.
Hackers used to be may one of my favorite movies, thought now it is really weird to Angelina Joilie looking so young!
I wonder how they would handle the discovery that during graduation day the teacher's school blew up!
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Date: 2009-03-03 03:26 pm (UTC)I can imagine them being known only be the very most elite of all hackers as these semi-mythical hackers that can get into anywhere. Or keep you out of anywhere. You can sometimes track them because Oz tends to use names that involve wolves or silver or music and Willow tends to use names that involve witches or red or trees.
As far as I know, the existence of a Slayer Academy is fanfiction. Have you been reading the Buffy comics? If so, you probably know more canon than I do and you can let me know.
Unless Riley is the head honcho of the military demon hunters, which seems unlikely if he's also in the field actually doing the hunting, then someone else is the government rep. And I imagine they have a very uneasy truce with such a powerful vigilante group as the Slayers would be. The Slayers may be good and moral and all, but they are far from legal in their actions. But I bet you're right. Willow or Oz has alarms on their files and confronts the hackers and starts asking them serious questions about their role in some disaster and they're like, "what, what? That doesn't have anything to do with what I did..."
Or, oh, maybe Willow just did some major magic to stop a recent apocalypse and now she has to lay low and maybe go through black magic withdrawal again because of the spell she had to cast. So everyone is expecting either the remaining bad guys to attack in revenge or for some one else to decide this is a good time to attack when she's not supposed to do any magic.
I'm not sure exactly how the save would go, though. How do the hackers save Willow and/or Oz from trigger happy government men?
In the mean time:
"Hey, I can do destructive things to the school: I can make the sprinkler system go off during passing period!"
"And my highschool was blown up entirely during graduation."
"Oh."
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Date: 2009-03-03 07:38 pm (UTC)Oz and Willow would have their contacts in the internet world to keep themselves up to date but only with those of the highest caliber and be virtually unknown except for their tendency to use exoteric nicknames and do impossible things with a keyboard and a goal.
I am completely out of the Buffy cannon loop and still kind of confused by what happened after the series so we are in the same boat cannon wise.
I think Riley might eb high up but not head of his supernatural department but his relation with the slayer and the way they've stopped a few apocalypses might have given him some clout and help in his career as an experienced hand on the subject.
I sometimes wonder if after the Sunnydale fiasco if some kind of deal was struck between the Government and the reformed Council, since I don't think there is any cannon about that the playground is completely free!
They would so confront them and the hackes would have totally understimaded the short musician who came to town recently and the sweet teacher. And when tehy are confronted by the two they get a little cocky and don't really awnser and so their computers all crash while two try figure out the link between the evil doer and high school kids.
Who they know not to understimate after living in Sunnydale, especially those who can be a little geeky after the scrapes Andrew and Co. used to get into.
I like your premise as to why Willow is there teaching, and Oz can have been brought around as back up or means of protection because no one else could be spared and they have to keep Red from magic for a while.
How they would save the two is a difficult question especially because it has to be computer related as a Wolf and Witch hardly would need assistance from the hackers in the physical plane... maybe after the transport a capture? or realizing that the colonel who has arrested them is using fake evidences they'd created to arrest the two and use them to further his agenda? so they need to track where the two would be taken and errase or replace or governamental files dealing with what is taking place while exposing the colonel for what he is?
Loved the little adendum at the end
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Date: 2009-03-03 10:08 pm (UTC)If Willow needs to detox from magic maybe she needs someone around to be moral support and Oz was the perfect choice. After all, he has to stay very much in control of himself in order to keep his wolf under control and also they can then talk computers to distract her.
Maybe part of the problem is that Willow really is demonstrating withdrawal symptoms which would make the government (even a sympathetic Riley) rather nervous. Meanwhile the hackers are sort of skirting a drug culture themselves so probably really disapprove of anyone who is apparently a druggie rather than a hacker.
I can't remember the names of those oriental guys either, but they should definitely be the ones who look at our hackers and go "why are you complaining about your computer science class? I almost thought of enrolling in highschool again just to get to talk computers with the Red Witch. Although we've heard WolfWitch has been active recently and that is even more interesting."
And the hackers are like, "Wait, Miss Rosenberg is elite?!?"
Maybe the government should just be an added complication to a different plot. Maybe Willow and Oz are trying to hack Wolfram & Hart? And inter-dimensional law firm must have some rather extreme protections after all.
It's a hacker battle between Willow/Oz and Wolfram-Hart, the government is looking on nervously from the side, and then our hacker guys get caught in the middle thinking they were just punking a teacher...
What do you think?
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Date: 2009-03-04 12:43 am (UTC)True Oz can help her deal with control and moral while still being able to do a decent job of not only protecting her from harm from withdraw doing so as well with regards to their enemies and herself, especially if she was more unstable because of a break up or mourning (doesn't she have a new girlfriend at the end of the series?)
People could easily confuse the two as druggies with their thinness and paleness and drinking the tibetan tea for control not to mention the detox symptoms. I can really see that confusion while the military only sees a grieving Willow and remembers reports of what happened last time she had lost lover, so they are all waiting for her to crack. None of them really know who Oz is I think so they would be even more worried about her being alone to deal with that and try to end the world again.
I found out the chinese guys names, one is Razor and the other is Blade ( from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/), and they are so in touch they are the only ones who might plausibly know the real life identity of the hellmouth hackers and maybe recognize Willow and Oz.
If they are in NY in order to hack that branch of the firm it would be an awesome idea, it would explain the choice of place and the paranoia they might engage in, and why they would know some underground contacts in bars (of the demon persuasion) who might seem more punk than the ones the Hackers knew.
Also if push comes to shove they might be able to call on the LA branch that Angel and Co. run or maybe they are there at his request? Something seems wrong with the East coast branches who aren't answering to LA any more and instead are in contact with NY?
Great names for pseudonyms you have found for the guys, and if Crash or Burn tries to argue about "how come if she is elite, if we never heard of her"
and one of the oriental guys replies "there is elite, and there is Elite. You don't play in the same leagues... but surely you have heard of the Red Witch and the _______ she created? or the code designed by Hungry Dingo? or ..." and just goes on listing aliases and happenings and they are like "wait she did that??"
and the last setup is perfect with little need to involve the supernatural except in the fringe as not to shock the guys too much since they are caught in the middle.
At the end one of them remarks it was a busy week, and Willow and Oz are "like what? this? this was a vacation, very calm... yesterday was Tuesday and nobody got kidnapped or lost limbs and life"
Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 02:28 am (UTC)I like the idea of Razor and Blade knowing pretty much everything that Willow and Oz have done along with all their names. I can also see them knowing all about the supernatural. If they're that elite, then they surely know a heck of a lot of secrets. They just don't find the secrets themselves as interesting as the process of discovering them or else they'd be very rich (or very dead) blackmailers rather than uber cool hackers. Maybe they invite Willow and Oz to the club. If I remember right, they pretty much live in a club. Come to think of it, do you think they could be demons of a more benign variety?
So Dade and Kate see Willow and Oz at the club and wonder how they even managed to get in since it's clearly not Willow's scene and as odd as Oz looks, he's like a quiet center in the middle of all the whirl. Only later do our hackers realize that the strangers were special guests of Razor and Blade.
At the end of the TV show, Willow was dating a Slayer named Kennedy. Fandom doesn't seem to like her, calling her too bratty and not sweet like Tara. I liked Kennedy, but then I thought Tara was a bit of a milksop.
So ways to get Kennedy out of the way:
1. Kill her off (being a Slayer is dangerous, so it would hardly be surprising, plus it would give Willow a reason to mourn and thus scare the government)
2. Have them fight and a nasty break-up (I don't much care for this option),
3. Have them both move on with their lives apart (they're young, they dated and then they stopped dating, it happens. This way as the virtue of being something I haven't seen in a fic before.)
or 4. Kennedy is missing and they think Wolfram & Hart might know what happened. Which is why they need to hack their system.
How about this: There's an apocalypse in May that was really bad. Willow had to do a massively dangerous spell that involved dark magics and whatnot and it was bad. A lot of people died and more people went missing in the aftermath. Wolfram & Hart may have been involved somehow. Kennedy is one of the missing and/or dead people. Willow needs to go through magical detox before May roles around again and since Slayer HQ is also magic central, she decides it's an optimal time to get her teaching certificate in New York. The Scoobies left behind try to attack W&H the old fashioned way. Willow decides it's time to attack it her old fashioned way: with computers. In the end, they rescue Kennedy and everyone. With time to spare before May comes again with its finals and apocalypses.
Does Willow end up in a relationship with Kennedy, with Oz, with a hacker, or none of the above?
And possibly a few of our favorite hackers get job offers with the Slayer HQ for ongoing assistance after they graduate.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 03:06 am (UTC)They could definitely be demons of a benign variety with an affinity for chaos. It would let them in the secret make them a little cooler and also sets up with why Willow and Oz would have gone to them (not only because they knew the secrets, might have worked together in something before).
I didn't really like Tara either, but that was maybe because I was an Oz fan and he didn't show up afterwards. Thought it would serve a nice purpose to get rid of Kennedy. So far options 1 and 3 seem to me the best for me, especially because if a Slayer was missing then more resources would have been diverted for her search and it would be a lot more time sensitive so Willow wouldn't be teaching or taking any long term or semi-permanent employment.
And you are right I don't think I have seen the mutual break up idea in fanfic before, but if that happened Willow wouldn't get to be so unstable.
I think getting her teacher's certificate might be a good idea, because if Slayer Academy is in existence then it needs certified teachers who can handle it. And the magical detox lasting a year is good, having to be cut off from large magical centrals explains why she is now away in NY. Thought it might be more of a revenge hit by Willow as well since she can't help with the hands own attack any more and she has time she decides to do it her original way.
In the way she first contributed to the scoobies, problem is they won't let her go without protection and they really can't spare anyone. So she remembers Oz and asks him a favor as he would fulfill the requirements and still be able to help her.
If Kennedy is missing then the problem becomes more time sensitive then if she was dead, maybe injured and hit with some spell they can't figure out but might have been registered in W&H's computers? (or is that too clichéd?)
I would prefer if she and Oz ended up together, especially if Willow and Kennedy had broken up before but are still close. I think that outside of Dade and Kate keep the hackers from romance, maybe at the end when the job offers come the others might flirt with some of the potentials or Dawn.
Willow would be their teacher and so her and a student is not something I can picture.
And at the end Willow stays to teach until the end of the year at the school instead of rushing back to Slayer HQ as she has to complete her detox.
She might end up alone with things to think about, I also want her and Oz to end up together because wolves mate for life and I know he would still love her.
He left to give her space, and letting go is the most difficult part.
It would be fun for Oz to know Blade and Razor's family from his time in Tibet and China and be there bringing them messages of their sedate and controlled family.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 04:55 am (UTC)And you're right: if Kennedy were alive but kidnapped it would be higher priority. So something else...
How about this: Willow and Kennedy separated amicably but no one really believes it. Everyone else is so used to the melodramatic relationships that they keep expecting more rather than for the relationship to just kind of peter out. Thus, when Kennedy is hurt in the apocalypse (but not killed because injuries can be shrugged off, but the death of an ex would be serious), and then Willow leaves town (in order to detox not because of any fight), everyone (ie. the government) thinks its a bad sign.
Oz is still keeping his distance because he doesn't want to mess things up worse than he feels he already did. But then Willow approaches him:
"Hey Oz. I'm moving to New York. I know you don't come by the Hellmouth, cause of control issues, and well, I'm having them too. Control issues that is. So I'm going to New York to detox for a bit and get my teacher's license. Um, I just wanted to let you know that I'd be there if you happened to be traveling through."
Oz blinks. "I'll be around." And promptly cancels all of his plans to spend the next year backpacking through the Bulkans, and instead tries to score some gigs in NY, NY.
So there they are in NY, and maybe it's been a pet peeve for a while that W&H got away with killing off Angel and his crew. Willow wants to do something to them. Or maybe Oz does. Or maybe Oz suggests that they work together to hack them because he wants to spend more time with Willow and it's a good excuse as well as being an interesting and virtuous thing to do. Since W&H is a powerful supernatural organization so using magic would just set of alarms anyway. So the best way to get into their system is pure computer hacking.
I sort of see H&W as having magical firewalls on their computers (as well as literal walls of magical fire elsewhere, I'm sure), but it's just a way of making it harder not impossible. Willow's own magic could get her through systems but now she has to rely on her knowledge of magic rather than her skills at it. If that makes sense. She knows how to do it the quick and easy way, now she just needs to do it manually.
So then the hackers or the government or someone does something to mess things up and suddenly what was supposed to be a low-key side project on lessening evil suddenly becomes a lot more time sensitive. Or, they discover some time sensitive information while hacking them and now they need to get the full story asap. Or cover their trail or something that requires the hackers to help.
I'm still blanking a bit on what crucial role the hackers will play. What makes Dale, Kate, et al, uniquely skilled? If Willow and Oz are both such elite and focused on subtle methods, why do they need the more chaotic kids? Any thoughts on the matter?
I like the idea of Blade and Razor having family in the old country. And if they're demons it could be a clan culture and all sorts of interesting things. I can't remember what exact ethnicity they were, however. Not Tibetan, Korean, or Vietnamese. I think Japanese, but I'm relying overly on my visual memory from years ago.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 01:05 pm (UTC)Oz: [voice over] I am my thoughts. If they exist in her, Buffy contains everything that is me and she becomes me. I cease to exist. [out loud] Hmm.
[Buffy and her friends are carving jack o' lanterns.]
Xander: I don’t know. I was going for ferocious, scary, but it’s coming out more dryly sardonic.
Willow: It does appear to be mocking you with its eye holes.
Oz: The nose hole seems sad and full of self-loathing.
I miss a show that can give us that sort of dialogue!
I think that is the perfect idea to deal with Kennedy and Willow, because taking into account everyone's love experiences the only relationship that was close to a more normal breakup was Cordelia's and Xander and it still involved a revenge demon. So nobody would believe that when Willow says they were over they were, cue traveling magical detox and you have a lot of worried outsiders, especially since even the scoobies might not have put faith in the separation.
Willow has to be the one to approach Oz as he wouldn't make the first move after what happened, and I love the idea that he says "I'll be around" and then has to cancel all this different things and postpone others for later.
Good idea about the pet peeve, Oz knew them and he might suggest the push into the digital direction. I mean Willow might be all we should do something about WH, its not fair they got away with L.A.
Oz. Then lets do something
W: But I can't use magic!
Oz. Let's do it old style. Like that time.
W. Ohh Why didn't I think of that! Lets do this and this and ... so they plan
It was something only they would be able to do without raisinga ll the magical alarms and diasbbling them while using the knowledge of magic and not magic itself. So something WH wouldn't have suspected.
I would go with the time sensitive issue, maybe when the hackers tried to mess with their files they triggered something? Or in the confusion of thing WH had found out about it they confront the Hackers and since they found a few clues to a very time sensitive project they are forced to ask for help. But instead of going to the Hackers they go to Razor and Blade (because they know them better) but they can't help for some reason maybe magical contract not to try to mess with WH?
As they are rather well known hackers who don't need the extra atention the law firm could bring or maybe have to visit family now because of the message Oz brought. So they instead refer Willow and Oz to Kate and Dade saying that the two and their group is the only one who might be able to help in such a short term or maybe they receive a list of possibilities and since the two already know about it they get recruited into the project.
so it would go faster with people helping. i don't remeber what their specialties were from the movie, I need to research that and how it would translate into modern day hacking but maybe because of those they would be able to help better with the cover up since W and Oz need to find the project files and erase them or replace them so the project will fail and need the hackers to cover their trails while they do it so there will be less complications.
But then the goverment tries to but in to see why they are in contact with the hackers or trying to find what they are planning and while W&O are being questioned Kate and Dade try to keep the project going or getting them out.
Can you imagine what sort of Clan culture could produce Razor and Blade? it wuold be awesome... and they might know Lorne!
in Imdb the actors who play them have last names Lee and Kim
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 03:53 pm (UTC)Anyway, lets say all the hacking has to be done completely without magic and Razor and Blade are magic enough that they can't turn it off in order to hack. So they suggest getting the best pure-humans out there: Dade and Kate.
I like your idea that there's an evil project that W&H are planning and those records need to be removed entirely from the computer system. Which may be sentient in its own right, because, hey, inter-dimensional law firm. It's a right tricky beast.
So Willow and Oz need a virus that can search and destroy and but it's all they can do to get the doorways open long enough to insert anything, they can't develop the virus itself. If Willow and Oz are really super good at getting past security or setting up their own security, but what they need is a very specific type of virus in order to crash some subsystem of W&H without crashing the whole thing since that would just get attention and retaliation, they would need help for that.
Meanwhile the government is not happy about a possibly-homicidally-depressed Willow working with a bunch of apparently-anarchist hackers, especially since their target is a well-reputed law firm. Willow and Oz get pulled in for questioning and Dade and Kate need to keep the process going until they get back which is really amazingly tricky because the hackers don't have the magical history to know what they're doing. So then they need to send some of their hackers to help Willow and Oz be released so that they can get back before their insertion program messes up. They manage to get Willow and Oz back just in time to prevent the W&H system from kicking them out of the system so there's still a chance to insert the virus. But now the virus has to be completed and inserted and then that pathway closed down so no one can track them later.
And what was originally a long-term all-year project now needs to be done before the military can mobilize itself to stop Willow and Oz. Then it's rush, rush, rush until they can get the virus in and then they're all surrounded by the army and various other minions. The hackers are going, oh no, we're in so much trouble. But then Willow goes out, looking sweet and nice (with no black to her eyes or hair) and lets Riley know that nothing happened that the government needs to worry about. And Oz just shrugs when asked what just went down. And the hackers look on in amazement, wondering what sort of pull these people have because apparently they're not all going to be handcuffed and dragged off to prison after all.
Though the military is still looking at them suspiciously. Riley points out that it might be hard for them to get jobs after school with their records. So Oz says he rather thinks that this on their record will get them quite a few job offers. Willow says, oh, yes, do they want a job with the Council? And Riley winces, because making the council even more powerful and irresponsible was not his plan.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 05:22 pm (UTC)He would be a though one to write I grant you that... still he needs more loveee!
that is an even better reason for why they can't be in the hacking while still being aware of what is going on and maybe giving aide in the sidelines. Their computer being sentient is also a good way to need to hurry the invasion since chances are someone wouldn't feel a mosquito bite... but if it kept biting you in the same place the being would notice and bring out the spray.
Oooh good idea, they'd be able to crash the entire system but since that is precisely not the point they need aide... and which hackers have successfully dealt with a similar virus?? They would be good at making minor ones but since it ain't what they usually needed they aren't the best, and they need the best for this.
W&O are more of security experts, getting past and building it because that was what they most needed when lives were at stake before.
the question is how does the government discovers the target? but i agree that they would be very nervous at the possibilities since one of those hackers has a conviction for having created a economical crisis in Wall St. and the others were also suspects in the DaVinci case last year... not to mention they were apparently seen with one Daniel Osbourne who once leaving high school rejected a job at the premier software companies in order to road trip in a beat up van... something they don't buy and so are suspicious.
after the wacky plan to release the two from custody works (because with the other hackers in the plan it has to be a little wacky).
So we already have a great climax and denouement with guest appearance made by Riley which is so cool. Not to mention the build up of reasons of why the project becomes more time sensitive as they get into it which should make a good gradual build up for the fic.
And I can imagine him wincing and thinking that *he* had been planning on making the job offer, but since Willow and Oz are so much cooler than the Man with guns he knows he doesn't have a chance.
it would be cool to have then Willow take the hackers to e introduced to the Council during summer break, since she has to finish teaching before going on with Oz to complete the appointments he had postponed. And so we can get a reaction from the scoobies about the two taking on W&H on their own. and to the new employees.
which allows for the use of the apocalypse in may lines and the jump to the rest of the year with no need to write it all... and it keeps open for sequels since we don't know whenever WH realized they had been infiltrated and if so, by whom.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 08:16 pm (UTC)Or blackmails the system, I suppose. If it's self-aware then it must have personality and weaknesses.
Then the sequel:
Dealing with a semi-evil sentient computer system that knows more than is healthy for you but has refrained, so far, from spilling your secrets to its masters. Or at least, if it has told, they're holding off on acting on it. Very unclear motivations regarding the computer program.
(Maybe Methos wrote it? Heh.)
Back to the original story, though, Riley and Slayer HQ could provide job offer and counter offer and the hackers could try to get the best deal. Because, while Slayer HQ may have a definite coolness factor, what they don't have are the amount of funding that the US Army has or the respectable reputation that parents might like in their kids' jobs.
Anyway, this would be a very cool story. Somebody (not me) should write it.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 08:22 pm (UTC)Blackmailing the system would be an interesting strategy!
Especially if Methos wrote it (hey he did create the watcher interactive database).
It would be such an awesome story. Shame you won't write it *puppy eyes*
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-04 10:45 pm (UTC)The best way to get a story that meets all your qualification is to write it yourself. It'll be fun.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 12:05 am (UTC)I can't write it! I have neither the skill nor the knowledge of the characters, especially Willow since I barely watched Buffy at the end.
Not to mention the fact I am job hunting, see? I can't!
what about you??
*kicked puppy eyes*
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 02:53 am (UTC)Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 03:50 am (UTC)And it would be virtuous. Doesn't the world deserve to have a decent Buffy/Hackers fic in it somewhere? You could meet that need.
What's your favorite scene from this story?
Go pull up a word document, save the outline, and fill in your favorite scene. Just that one scene and send it to me. It'll be fun.
here, kitty, kitty. One step at a time.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 04:01 am (UTC)You already made me spend the last two days reading PaBurke's fic since you recommended the Hl/BTVS/IJ x-over, cease your attempts!!
but I might, and I mean might give it a shot this weekend I am broke so no going out for me anyway ><;
but don't expect much from it... last time I tried to write I was in 7th grade and it was so mary-sueish even I couldn't stand it!
and you are right the world does need more Buffy/Hackers fic... but it also needs Highlander x-over fic (or sequels of fic)
You know you want to.... you have snippets some where... I know you do....
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 04:39 am (UTC)And everyone writes Mary Sues, or at least thinks about them. The good authors just realize that it's a bad idea to let anyone else read them. Plus, I can't imagine you haven't grown up a bit since 7th grade.
Come on, come into my parlor... drat it, not that metaphor either. But just give it a try. It'll be fun. And a learning experience... and doing the world a favor...
Tempt, tempt, tempt...
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 07:10 pm (UTC)But I don't promise you anything!
and how about you??
What favor will you do to the world? won't you post any more x-overs? I *know* you had some plans for a sequel for square peg, and some reactions for the SG-1crew with regards to what happened in the next chapter...
I was only more eager to read it after the review reply you sent me!
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 09:05 pm (UTC)Hmm. I've currently been bashing my head against the next section of my Labyrinth series, but it has not been playing nice. Neither has a chapter of an original story I've been thinking about for a while. The sequel to Square Peg is too humungous for me to think of without wincing.
I suppose I could do a one-shot Square Peg sequel but it would be more of a teaser than anything else, because, wow, is there a lot of work in taking over the universe.
How about a one-shot Methos/SG-A as a token thank you for your story. Would that do?
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 09:33 pm (UTC)Ohhh oh yes it would!
it sure would! it would also help you take your mind of Labyrinth for a while. Some of the best things come when you aren't looking for it... best way to remember something is not to think about it after all!
Though if you want to write that SG1 teaser you won't hear any complaints from me!
(and likely not from you fans!)
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 10:03 pm (UTC)I may need to re-watch Hackers, too.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 10:31 pm (UTC)Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 10:53 pm (UTC)Do you remember that one Sandman story in which Morpheus gives the playwright too many plot and characters ideas to deal with and it drives him insane? I would sympathize except for the whole kidnapping/torture/rape bit.
I do not need more ideas than I already have.
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 11:01 pm (UTC)and I will try do it again soon *wink*
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 11:33 pm (UTC)Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-05 11:36 pm (UTC)be tempted!!
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-10 04:26 am (UTC)I've started both a Methos/SGA story (which is about half done) and a future-Square Peg teaser (1/5th done maybe?).
Re: Willow and Oz and Hackers
Date: 2009-03-10 02:45 pm (UTC)Yayyyyyyy
you deserve a cookie!! I am very glad to hear that and I will work extra hard!
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Date: 2009-03-04 03:17 am (UTC)right now I am dying to read one!!
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